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A fact from Anchorage White Raven appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 13 December 2024 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that a raven in Anchorage, Alaska (pictured), ate tater tots and toast, fought over ice cream, and disassembled a streetlamp?

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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 00:34, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The Anchorage White Raven in 2024

... that the Anchorage White Raven (pictured) ate tater tots and toast, fought over ice-cream, and disassembled a streetlamp?

Source: it relished pieces of toast and tater tots McBride, Rhonda (2024-06-04). "After winter of wonder, Anchorage's white raven takes flight". Alaska Public Media. Retrieved 2024-11-21.

There’s also footage on Facebook of the raven loosening a bolt on a streetlamp and carrying it off in its beak[...]In a recent post, Klinkhart shared pictures of the raven in a spat with four black ravens over a discarded Häagen-Dazs carton of White Raspberry Chocolate Truffle ice cream. In the last photo in the series, the raven shows off its prize. McBride, Rhonda (2024-01-30). "Anchorage's white raven becomes a local legend as a tracked trickster". Alaska Public Media. Retrieved 2024-11-21.

- ALT1: ... that the Anchorage White Raven (pictured) was an "alpha"? Source: In fact, the white raven behaves more like an “alpha” bird. McBride, Rhonda (2024-01-30). "Anchorage's white raven becomes a local legend as a tracked trickster". Alaska Public Media. Retrieved 2024-11-21.
- ALT2: ... that over 27,000 people joined a Facebook group dedicated to an individual raven? Source: Since the first sighting last October, over 27,000 members have joined the Anchorage White Raven Spottings group on Facebook. White, Quinn (2024-11-13). "Will the white raven return to Anchorage this winter?". Alaska's News Source. Retrieved 2024-11-21.
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- Comment: Photo is in the public domain as the work of a federal employee (easy confirmation here).

Created by GreenLipstickLesbian (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 23:13, 21 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
New enough: Long enough:

Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Adequate sourcing: Neutral: Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing:

Hook eligibility:

Cited:
Interesting:
Other problems: - Please see suggestion for slight variation on first hook below.

Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
Freely licensed: Used in article: Clear at 100px:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: All sources are reliable for purposes used. Appears neutral. Spot check of four sources reveals no close paraphrasing. Accusing the bird of stealing the bolt based on hearsay may be libelous and violate BLP. Article is quite presentable, and both images are clear and properly licensed. I'm not too fond of ALT1 since I think it's too vague. ALT2 is neat, but I much prefer the absolute chaos of the first hook. That said, the one thing I would change about it is to say: "that a raven in Anchorage, Alaska (pictured) ate tater tots and toast, fought over ice cream, and disassembled a streetlamp?" I suggest this because upon reading the hook, I thought "Anchorage white raven" was a colloquial name for a species of bird, not a single specimen. It also reflects the typical spelling 'ice cream' rather than 'ice-cream', but this is concern is more arbitrary than the one about the boldlink text. This longer ALT0.5 hook is ~150 characters. This is my first time reviewing a DYK, but I'm a new article reviewer, so hopefully this is sufficient. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 03:01, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@TheTechnician27: Thank you for the review and all the tidying! I get what you're saying about the name. As a non-biology editor and a local, the potential for confusion didn't even come to mind, and I love the correction you posed! I don't know if ALT 0.5 is different enough to require somebody else to review it, but I'm completely on board with the modifications, and I'd like to say thank you for making them!
And thank you for finding another place (ice cream versus ice-cream) I egregiously violated WP:ENGVAR haha. It's an American topic so your suggestion is right, of course. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 08:12, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What living person was being libeled? The source referred to a video that was posted to Facebook and depicted the act in question. RadioKAOS / Talk to me, Billy / Transmissions 22:06, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@RadioKAOS: Sorry, I should've clarified that I was making a tongue-in-cheek joke about it being libelous toward the raven. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 18:59, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]