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Please move from lede (to, say, this talk page)

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"Two teams of court-appointed forensic psychiatrists examined Breivik before his trial. The first team diagnosed Breivik with paranoid schizophrenia, but after this initial finding was criticized, a second evaluation concluded that he was not psychotic during the attacks but did have narcissistic personality disorder and antisocial personality disorder."--Justification: the main trials are mentioned, and judges have convicted him (2011, 2012, and at least one more time).--No verdict has sentenced him to serve time in a mental health facility.--All the mental health stuff can be mentioned in the rest of the article, and in the sections dedicated to all his trials.--Please be bold, and move from lede (to, say, this thread or Talk page).--And then i will suggest how we can trim the lede even further. 2001:2020:331:B91D:3934:C29:BDF:3F9 (talk) 18:17, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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"and that he rented a farm as a cover for a fake farming company buying fertilizer (3 tons for producing explosives and 3 tons of a harmless kind to avoid suspicion) and as a lab".--Some stuff needs to go from lede - to Talk page. Other stuff, might just 'need to go'. 2001:2020:331:B91D:A516:1FE9:A99F:7156 (talk) 21:26, 12 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Moved to Talk page: "He applied for parole in 2022, which the Court rejected [well, no, the correction authorities do the rejection, but the courts can look at the matter after that rejection], and [Breivik] subsequently appealed" ... .--Other than the above, non-optimal presentation, the article seems to be getting things right. 2001:2020:309:B058:78E0:9B13:8404:F359 (talk) 18:11, 15 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Farmer

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He registered a company, and said that its category would be "Farming".--He rented a property, a farm, so that no one would be alarmed by him buying tons of chemicals that are used to make bombs.--To my knowledge he has not farmed one square yard of land.--Perhaps one could stretch things, and say that he was the owner of a one-man farming company (that did not employ any farmers).--Please remove Category:Farmer.--Good luck! 2001:2020:31B:F0E4:F5AB:882D:9E1C:B78F (talk) 17:59, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, it is a silly category, and not remotely a 'defining characteristic' per WP:CATDEF. I've removed it. AndyTheGrump (talk) 18:03, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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It would be quite helpful if this Wiki site included information or links on investigation into the funding sources and corporate, education, and social networks of Øystein Storrvik and Geir Lippestad legal firms.

While an almost-obfuscatory blizzard of questions have been raised on this webpage around "What is sanity?" (And more obliquely, perhaps: "What are the limits of a democratic society?"), Breivik/Hansen's ideological work and dogged tactics suggest continued support by the larger global Antienlightenment/military-feudal restoration community that has not been criminalized outside Norway, but has rather risen to ideological and political leadership globally. To understand Breivik/Hansen, it seems most pertinent to understand the community of extraordinary ongoing support. Given their extraordinary donation of valuable legal expertise and time in a country in which public funding for criminal defense is the norm, Øystein Storrvik and Geir Lippestad are obvious connections to such a national and international Antienlightenment, military-feudal restoration community. Fanboi Chau (talk) 02:07, 7 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Any connection ' between your ideas and the article, seem ' a little strained, to the say the least. Maybe, when the trial verdict has been fully digested, they'll bring out the nutcracker? 2001:2020:303:C4EB:910D:634D:B1EB:7217 (talk) 21:50, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]