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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 15:56, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

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Kim Ju-ae

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  • Source: "As North Korea unveils stamps of Kim's daughter, South doubts she is successor". South China Morning Post. 16 February 2023. Retrieved 26 October 2024.
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Xu Xinfu
  • Comment: I chose not to include the name "Kim Ju-ae" in this hook because her name has not been confirmed by either of the two Korean governments, as of the time of this nomination.
Improved to Good Article status by Yue (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 24 past nominations.

Yue🌙 04:17, 27 October 2024 (UTC).

  • Comment I think having the hook be something like "... that the name of the daughter of North Korean Supreme Leader Kim Jong Un has not yet been confirmed by either Korea?" may be fun. Probably needs to be reworded to be less wordy though. seefooddiet (talk) 09:59, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
    • ALT1: ... that North Korean media has never referred to Kim Jong Un's daughter by name, only as his "respected", "precious" or "beloved" daughter?
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ALT2: ... that the name of Kim Jong Un's daughter has not been confirmed by either of the two Koreas?
Source: Kang, Hyun-kyung (16 November 2023). "North Korean leader's daughter known by wrong name: expert". The Korea Times. Retrieved 18 October 2024.
ALT3: ... that the name of Kim Jong Un's daughter is not publicly known?
Source: Same as ALT2's.
The descriptors "Supreme Leader", "North Korean leader" or "its leader" could be added by the promoter to any of the hooks if they are successful, but I personally do not think the descriptors are necessary. I am confident that most readers would know who Kim Jong Un is, or at least be able to make the connection with the context of North Korea already there. Having so many extra words just makes the sentence wordy and unnatural. Yue🌙 22:16, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
I like ALT3. Punchy and concise. In my orig proposal the reason I mentioned "either Koreas" is because the nature of their confirmation would differ, which is somewhat interesting. It means that North Korea did not announce it and South Korea hasn't figured it out yet. I think it's hard to communicate that though, so maybe just not worth mentioning. seefooddiet (talk) 00:21, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Agreed. Yue🌙 00:25, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
I will review this, since above I see only discussion about alt hooks (I agree ALT3 is likely the best). Anyway, article been nominated on time. Hooks are neutral (ALT3 is best), references and article text confirm them. Article, as expected from a recent GA, is fine (long, referenced, comprehensive, neutral etc. etc.). QPQ has been done. We are GTG here. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 01:31, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
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