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[edit]Hi, I'm Salimfadhley. Docentation, thanks for creating Ingando!
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Salimfadhley (talk) 00:14, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
Hello Docentation, Jarrvis here. You're quite right - 'self-contradictory' can appear a harsh label. However, what I suggested was self-contradictory was not the use of two different sources with two different claims. If anything, that would be sound academic practice, to point out the diversity of views. What I suggest is self-contradictory was the claim that the Ingando camps were first used in a particular context (even before the Rwandan Civil War), and then an immediate follow-up claim (with no effective caveats made whatsoever) that they were post-Civil War instruments.
Regarding your second question, it appears clear that where conflicting views from the sources exist, the views ought to be clearly set out (along with the supporting source material). Having reviewed the alleged "sources", I can find little evidence that the deleted one is genuinely any support for the claim it purportedly made. The link was at best tenuous, and quite simply superfluous. In this context, its being elided appeared eminently justifiable to me.
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Lapablo (talk) 15:06, 19 May 2019 (UTC)Aberporth
[edit]Hi, Docentation, I have edited your recent contribution to Aberporth. See [1]. Cheers! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 17:26, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
- Hello @Gareth Griffith-Jones:; thank you for changing that. May I ask whether it’s standard practice? (I ask because it seems to be to be slightly more inelegant to have Welsh: x (y) than “the Old Welsh a (b), c (d)” &c.) If it is I shall rectify my other additions—it just occurred to me that my copy of Place-Names of Great Britain and Ireland is useful for something other than joking about possessing boring books to friends, so I intend to upload most of the etymological information from it to Wikipedia in the fullness of time. Docentation (talk) 17:31, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
- Hello! No, not standard practice, but if a template is available, I tend to use it. I suppose it was the "old" that I took notice—seemed redundant as modern Welsh applies too. Does that make sense? Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 17:40, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
- I see, @Gareth Griffith-Jones:; I have a feeling that the template was intended to be used slightly differently, though I share the desire to use templates where they exist. The example given at Template:Lang-cy is “Thuringia (German: Thüringen)”, which is different from “Welsh: aber (mouth)”; the former seems to be a reasonable use of punctuation, the latter not. As for Welsh and Old Welsh, I think that it is useful to distinguish between the two for etymological purposes, even if the words are the same. I don’t feel too strongly about this so I shan’t interfere with Aberporth. Docentation (talk) 17:58, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
- Good to hear back from you. Cannot disagree. Have fun with the etymology! Don't worry about pinging—you're on my watchlist since 18:26. Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 18:03, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
- Glad we reached consensus; I’ll revert the change to Aberporth if that’s all right with you. Docentation (talk) 18:23, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
- Of course it is. Wishing you a pleasing week! Gareth Griffith-Jones (contribs) (talk) 11:13, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
- Glad we reached consensus; I’ll revert the change to Aberporth if that’s all right with you. Docentation (talk) 18:23, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
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- @Naypta: I see; I should have read the documentation. Thank you for pointing this out. Docentation (talk) 16:53, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
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Hi Docentation! I noticed that you recently marked an edit as minor that may not have been. "Minor edit" has a very specific definition on Wikipedia—it refers only to superficial edits that could never be the subject of a dispute, such as typo corrections or reverting obvious vandalism. Any edit that changes the meaning of an article is not a minor edit, even if it only concerns a single word. Please see Help:Minor edit for more information. Thank you. Jonathan A Jones (talk) 21:52, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
- @Jonathan A Jones: yes, fair enough—he who drafts inebriated had better (finalise) edit(s) sober. I suppose, apropos, that congratulations are in order. Docentation (talk) 23:32, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
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The Signpost: 14 August 2024
[edit]- In the media: Portland pol profile paid for from public purse
- In focus: Twitter marks the spot
- News and notes: Another Wikimania has concluded.
- Special report: Nano or just nothing: Will nano go nuclear?
- Opinion: HouseBlaster's RfA debriefing
- Traffic report: Ball games, movies, elections, but nothing really weird
- Humour: I'm proud to be a template
The Signpost: 4 September 2024
[edit]- News and notes: WikiCup enters final round, MCDC wraps up activities, 17-year-old hoax article unmasked
- In the media: AI is not playing games anymore. Is Wikipedia ready?
- News from the WMF: Meet the 12 candidates running in the WMF Board of Trustees election
- Wikimania: A month after Wikimania 2024
- Serendipity: What it's like to be Wikimedian of the Year
- Traffic report: After the gold rush
The Signpost: 26 September 2024
[edit]- In the media: Courts order Wikipedia to give up names of editors, legal strain anticipated from "online safety laws"
- Community view: Indian courts order Wikipedia to take down name of crime victim, editors strive towards consensus
- Serendipity: A Wikipedian at the 2024 Paralympics
- Opinion: asilvering's RfA debriefing
- News and notes: Are you ready for admin elections?
- Recent research: Article-writing AI is less "prone to reasoning errors (or hallucinations)" than human Wikipedia editors
- Traffic report: Jump in the line, rock your body in time
The Signpost: 19 October 2024
[edit]- News and notes: One election's end, another election's beginning
- Recent research: "As many as 5%" of new English Wikipedia articles "contain significant AI-generated content", says paper
- In the media: Off to the races! Wikipedia wins!
- Contest: A WikiCup for the Global South
- Traffic report: A scream breaks the still of the night
- Book review: The Editors
- Humour: The Newspaper Editors
- Crossword: Spilled Coffee Mug
The Signpost: 6 November 2024
[edit]- From the editors: Editing Wikipedia should not be a crime
- In the media: An old scrimmage, politics and purported libel
- Special report: Wikipedia editors face litigation, censorship
- Traffic report: Twisted tricks or tempting treats?
The Signpost: 18 November 2024
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The Signpost: 12 December 2024
[edit]- News and notes: Arbitrator election concludes
- Arbitration report: Palestine-Israel articles 5
- Disinformation report: Sex, power, and money revisited
- Op-ed: On the backrooms by Tamzin
- In the media: Like the BBC, often useful but not impartial
- Traffic report: Something Wicked for almost everybody