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July 2016

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I am not interested in your input. Please consider this a warning that your unwanted contact and behavior is bordering on Harassment and Wikihounding. Please refrain from writing on my Talk page. Thank you. KamelTebaast 23:28, 19 July 2016 (UTC)

@Kamel Tebaast: Ok then. I was only informing you of a discussion I thought you might be interested in. I tried not to imply that you were the subject of the investigation. Consider this my final interaction with you for the time being. (It's entirely possible that we may need to interact again for another reason, which is why I'm saying "for the time being.") I will, however, continue to comment in discussions in which both you and I are involved (such as the current ARBPIA discussion), as long as they are not on your talk page. -- Gestrid (talk) 00:37, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

CU

Since you asked about this in ANI, CheckUser (CU) is an advanced user class that has the ability to access special technical information on users, such as browser, operating system, and IPs used. CU is helpful in linking socks to one another and finding additional accounts (called a "sleeper check"). It can't be used with IPs, however, due to privacy restrictions; also, CU data is not stored indefinitely. If we suspected any future accounts of being Sunilseth15 socks, we could report them to the soon-to-be-made SPI page. Hope this information is helpful!

GABgab 19:48, 20 July 2016 (UTC)

@GeneralizationsAreBad: Yes, that's very helpful! Thanks for explaining it to me! -- Gestrid (talk) 05:00, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

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TNSTeam

Yes. They were soft-advised on their talk page a week ago that their user name was improper because it was a corporate name. I declined the draft. As you saw, they then improved the draft, and asked me on my talk page to re-review, and I said no. You might not have also seen that at this point I noticed that they had ignored the soft complaint about the user name, so I went ahead and filed a hard report, which appears to be what has gotten them blocked. They can still get unblocked by changing their user name, but will then have to make the paid editing disclosure. Some reviewers are willing to help paid editors improve their articles. I won't. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:10, 21 July 2016 (UTC)

What am I doing

What do you think I'm doing, I need you to explain now! — Preceding unsigned comment added by LuisSuazo300 (talk • contribs) 01:12, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

This. Although, at the time I posted the warning, I didn't realize that was so long ago. The issue came up at ANI today, and I saw you hadn't been properly warned. I apologize for the late warning. That was entirely my fault, but you still should not personally attack other editors like that.
Also, I'd prefer that you not shout at me.
-- Gestrid (talk) 01:21, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Is this person notable enough for wikipedia

Thank you for the quick response. Because I am not wikipedia savvy, understanding the qualifications for being considered "notable" are somewhat vague.....I will probably consider having a third party create a page fore her, but before I do (and probably spend $1000.00+), I'd like another third party to advise me as to whether or not Ashley Kidd (Wakesurfing) would be considered notable. My hope is that you would google her name (Ashley Kidd - she takes up the first three pages of any search), and give me your opinion as to whether or not she might make the cut. Thank you for your time and for your help.Donaldrkiddjr (talk) 16:50, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

First of all, Donaldrkiddjr, I would like to say that paying someone to create a page here is greatly discouraged. It's allowed, though, as long as the editor being paid properly discloses that they are, in fact, being paid. This is required under the Wikimedia Terms of Use, and can have legal ramifications if it isn't followed. Also, make sure the article isn't written like an advertisement, because it will then be speedily deleted.
As for notability, that really just boils down to whether or not your daughter has been covered in reliable sources. Wikipedia doesn't particularly care about (as an example) news coming directly from Company A's website, as it is obviously biased towards the company. What Wikipedia does care about is if reliable sources not connected to Company A report on what Company A has said. This establishes it as a notable subject.
I recommend that, because you are a new editor, you create the article using our Articles for Creation process, which allows you to create a draft of the article and have it reviewed by experienced editors before it "goes live." When a reviewing editor thinks the articles is ready, they'll make it "go live" and notify you that the article was approved.
Also, if you do end up paying someone to create the article, make sure it's someone who has experience with Wikipedia's policies and has created at least a few articles.
Again, I realize that this is a lot to take in, but it will result in an overall better article because of it.
-- Gestrid (talk) 17:20, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Great! Thank you for breaking it down for me and making the process easier to understand. Wikipedia is my online source for everything, so no one appreciates it more than I do.Donaldrkiddjr (talk) 17:31, 22 July 2016 (UTC)

Gestrid has invited others to join the conversation here.
If your daughter has won a world championship in a recognised sport, then I think that warrants a Wikipedia article about her. There is a Wikipedia article Wakesurfing, which is encouraging. Videos of wakesurfing are much more interesting to watch than ones of, say, ballroom dancing – but that's just my irrelevant opinion. My concern was that all wakesurfing events seemed to be sponsored by a company called Centurion, so maybe it's a local thing. But then I found events in Montpellier and elsewhere outside the US. This convinces me it is a "real" sport, and Ashley won the 2016 Women's championship. Maproom (talk) 20:05, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
Donaldrkiddjr, I echo Gestrid's words. Do not pay someone to write the article. Not only is it a waste of money, it actually tarnishes the subject's reputation. I've added another source and one more external link to the draft. I'm not using all the references available because it starts looking like cite kill, but suffice it to say, she receives coverage of her wins in Italy, most recently in France, as mentioned by Maproom and she's currently ranked Number 1 in the Competitive Wake Surf Association's World Rankings, more than 100 points above her nearest competitor. I am going to move this draft into article space as a stub. In my view it would be highly unlikely to be taken to an AfD and if it were, it would be highly likely to survive. That is all that's required of an AfC acceptance plus inline citations to independent sources for the claims made. Voceditenore (talk) 07:35, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
Donaldrkiddjr: you could help to improve the draft Voceditenore is working on, by providing a picture of Ashley. The picture must have a copyright status acceptable to Wikipedia, which is most easily achieved if the person who takes the photograph (and therefore owns the copyright in it) uploads it to Wikimedia Commons as their "own work". Maproom (talk) 07:48, 23 July 2016 (UTC)
Donaldrkiddjr, since you are Ashley's father, you could actually upload a picture you have of her that you took and claim it as your own work. -- Gestrid (talk) 14:14, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

Who is We?

When an editor uses the first person plural pronoun "we", it is my usual assumption that they mean that they are speaking for their employer and are a paid editor. As you can see, that is what happened the time that you asked on my talk page. Thank you for asking. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:06, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

You're welcome. I didn't know the discussion had moved to the author's talk page, but I'm glad I was able to bring up that policy and clarify that for them. After I saw where they put their COI (the article itself), I moved it to the talk page of the article. -- Gestrid (talk) 04:13, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

CHAMBA CHUKH

Hi Gestrid,

I published the article titled <CHAMBA CHUKH>.

Chamba Chukh is an extremely distinctive regional specialty from a community in the Himalayas in North India, not representing any interest or brand.

It is a generations Old recipe of chilli preparation in the Chamba district in Himachal Pradesh India. The government of the state has officers training women's self help groups to promote this amazing tradition. Several food writers and bloggers have covered the topic and it is also being added to the government pages of the state soon.

I know of it as I work in the region with tea planters, makers, handicrafts etc on a regular basis and the CHAMBA CHUKH is an extremely well known and beloved tradition of the region.

Some blogs and publication citings for your reference:

http://www.thehimachal.com/himachal/chamba-chukh-pickle-88888/ http://www.divyahimachal.com/2013/11/himachals-delicacies-need-promotion/

Food blogger:

http://www.annapurnaz.in/a-fiery-tangy-gift-from-chamba-chukh-hot-red-chili-chutney/

Government of India's DRDA's (District Rural Development Agency) Chamba pages list of trained makers and self help groups:

http://drdachamba.org/Schemes/SHGs/SHGInvt/Chamba/Inventory/main1.htm

Company pages selling marketing:

http://himalayanpeople.com/collections/himachillichukh

As you nominated this page for deletion, i wanted to reach out and figure out a way to explain the importance and cultural significance of this Food.

Request you to suggest a path forward.

Regards,

anujkaps Anujkaps (talk) 16:57, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

Hello, Anujkaps. The only way to really convince people not to delete an article is to take part in the deletion discussion. -- Gestrid (talk) 17:01, 29 July 2016 (UTC)

Malory Towers

Greetings! I wanted to ask that if I can create the fourth and sixth series of Malory Towers books separately in Wikipedia as the other series have notable wikipedia pages, I was wondering if I could create them. Cheers! Amy2563 (talk) 18:19, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

Hello, Amy2563! One of our many guidelines here on Wikipedia is to edit boldly, so feel free to create pages for anything you think is notable (in Wikipedia's special sense of the word)!
However, since you are a new user, I would recommend creating the articles through the Articles for Creation process so others can review your work and give you advice on what to do. All you need to do is click the button that says "Click here to create an article now!" and fill out the form. When you finish filling out the form, it will create a page in the draft "namespace" (meaning it will create a page called "Draft:ARTICLE NAME"). The page will already be partially filled out for you, including a button that will allow you to submit the draft for review when you're ready.
If, when you're editing your draft, you want some feedback on your draft without submitting your draft for review, you should post on my friend Robert McClenon's talk page. He's one of the Articles for Creation draft reviewers, and will likely be able to give you valuable feedback.
-- Gestrid (talk) 19:12, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for fixing that link Gestrid. I would like to replace several links with ones that have more significant and more relevant information. Also many do not work. I do not know how to switch them out. Would it be okay to provide you with a numbered list of replacements, or would it be better if you can just tell me what the steps are to switch them out I have read the instructions repeatedly and still can't figure it out. Someone else set up the page initially and they are no longer available to help me out. I also need to knoow what I can do to get this page accepted once all the new links are in position. Thank you very much for your help. YMARI — Preceding unsigned comment added by YMARI (talk • contribs) 18:12, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

Hello, YMARI. Our policy on dead links allow broken links to stay, provided {{Dead link}} is added to each one, which I have already done. As for inserting new references, I would recommend using our visual editor, which has a neat feature that allows it to automatically cite any link you put in it. It then puts the information into a reference correctly. (If needed, you can also put all the information in manually, and it'll still put the reference into the article.) For instructions on how to enable the visual editor, click here and read the small text under the large "Enable VisualEditor" link. After that, to use it, you just click on "Edit" (NOT "Edit soource") and it'll load it. I hope this answers all of your questions. -- Gestrid (talk) 20:10, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

Dear Mr. Gestrid:

Thank you very much for helping me with the existing links and with the information for uploading new links. I will study everything and begin the process later today. Your note gives me the assurance that I can count on your guidance through this process. Thank you again.

These are more links of the 100s of links that show Mr. Rose as a notable and significant person.

We will be editing the indicated links as soon as possible. Hopefully you will be able to help me move the Tony Rose page out of the draft section and into a live page status very soon.

- YMARI

Reducing clutter. These are the links Ymari left on my talk page. -- Gestrid (talk) 23:24, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

TONY ROSE AMPEX GOLDEN REEL AWARDS FOR ENGINEERING AND RECORDING NEW KIDS ON THE BLOCK ALBUM MERRY, MERRY, CHRISTMAS AT HIS “HIT CITY RECORDING STUDIO” IN BOSTON, MASS. 1989 http://www.tonyroseenterprises.com/about-tr.html

NEW KIDS ON THE BLOCK ALBUM RECORDED AT TONY ROSE’S “HIT CITY RECORDING STUDIO”. New Kids On The Block - Merry, Merry Christmas (Vinyl, LP ...www.discogs.com/New-Kids-On-The-Block-Merry.../682330 - Discogs - Recorded at: The House of Hits, Boston, MA; The House of Hits Mobile Unit (On ... Boston, MA; Syncro Sound Studio, Boston, MA; Hit City Recording Studio, ...

Tony Rose - www.begroup.co/Tony-Rose/104910630382038094342 Tony Rose is an NAACP Image Award Winner - WWW. ... Rose in the 80's held recording / production deals with Virgin Records, Atlantic ... In 1983, albums produced by Rose "Gang War" and "Stone Killers" by Prince Charles and the City Beat ...

100 Greatest British Albums Of All Time –TONY ROSE PRODUCED PRINCE CHARLES AND THE CITY BEAT BAND ALBUM “STONE KILLERS” NUMBER 45 NME LIST. - http://www.rocklistmusic.co.uk/1983.html  ›› Radiohead - The National ... Gang War - Prince Charles & The City Beat Band 27. Sings The Wailers - Bunny ...

TONY ROSE AND PRINCE CHARLES EMERGE FROM THE BOSTON GHETTO - Billboard - Mar 30, 1985 - Google Books Result - https://books.google.com/books?id=5yMEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PT134&lpg=PT134&dq=tony+rose+and+solid+platinum+records+and+productions&source=bl&ots=kKp5lT4y7j&sig=ma5Ay9rwhBCN-QbdU4ibqWkUiU&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiAw9OjgP_LAhVE4CYKHXaeC5E4ChDoAQg4MAY#v=onepage&q=tony%20rose%20and%20solid%20platinum%20records%20and%20productions&f=false Vol. 97, No. 13 - ‎Magazine Tony Rose, president and architect of Boston-based Solid Platinum ... and a production and publishing deal with Virgin Records i!i Publishing.

LISTS OF EUROPEAN MUSIC GOLD RECORD CERTIFICATIONS. https://wiki.eso.workers.dev/wiki/List_of_music_recording_certifications

TONY ROSE PRODUCED PRINCE CHARLES & THE CITY BEAT BAND | full Official ...www.officialcharts.com/artist/.../prince-charles-and-the-city-beat-band/ ; - All the singles and albums of PRINCE CHARLES & THE CITY BEAT BAND, peak chart positions, career stats, week-by-week chart runs and latest news. ... UK Number 1s. 0. UK Top 10s. 0. UK Top 40s. 1. UK Top 75s. 0 ... 1, Chart Facts. 07.05. 1983. CASH (CASH MONEY). PRINCE CHARLES AND THE CITY BEAT BAND. - http://www.officialcharts.com/artist/20452/prince-charles-and-the-city-beat-band/ TONY ROSE PRODUCED PRINCE CHARLES AND THE CITY BEAT BAND "FOOL FOR LOVE" - Billboard - Jan 22, 1983 - Google Books Result https://books.google.com/books?id=5iMEAAAAMBAJ - Vol. 95, No. 3 - ‎Magazine - Island 7 99926 In its 12 inch version, this record caused something ot a stir when it was previewed ... PRINCE CHARLES AND THE CITY BEAT BAND- Foul For Love (6:30); producers C ... Charles Al eiander, Tony Rose, publisher Cily Castle.

TONY ROSE PRODUCED PRINCE CHARLES AND THE CITY BEAT BAND "STONE KILLERS" - Billboard - Dec 25, 1982 - Google Books Result - https://books.google.com/books?id=YyQEAAAAMBAJ - Vol. 94, No. 51 - ‎Magazine has been No I on Billboard's Most Added Records feature Iwo weeks running, ... PRINCE CHARLES AND THE CITY BEAT BAND-Stone Kill en,1, Reach Out Intl. RecordsAUS (Cassette Only). Produc«d by Charles Alexander and Tony Rose.

TONY ROSE PRODUCED PRINCE CHARLES AND THE CITY BEAT BAND - # 80 "IN THE STREETS - # 85 "CASH MONEY TOP 100 SINGLES - MUSIC WEEK - OFFICIAL BRITISH CHART http://www.officialcharts.com/charts/singles-chart/19830508/7501/

TONY ROSE PRODUCED PRINCE CHARLES AND THE CITY BEAT BAND "STONE KILLERS" # 45 ALBUM AND TRACK OF THE YEAR - 1983 http://www.nme.com/bestalbumsandtracksoftheyear/1983 NEW MUSICAL EXPRESS MAGAZINE (NME)

TONY ROSE PRODUCED PRINCE CHARLES AND THE CITY BEAT BAND "GANG WAR" # 26 ALBUM AND TRACK OF THE YEAR - 1981 http://www.nme.com/bestalbumsandtracksoftheyear/1981

YMARI (talk) 21:21, 31 July 2016 (UTC)

Teahouse talkback: you've got messages!

Hello, Gestrid/Archive 3. Your question has been answered at the Teahouse Q&A board. Feel free to reply there!
Please note that all old questions are archived after 2-3 days of inactivity. Message added by Sam Sailor Talk! 03:49, 1 August 2016 (UTC). (You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{teahouse talkback}} template.

I do not wish for that link to be widely-disseminated. Microsoft is planning to make it so that they will no longer give it out willy-nilly, and require verification and discussion through Microsoft support in order to use this offer.

I also do not feel that it is in line with the external links guideline, which designates that official external links in such a section be limited to those that "primarily cover the area for which the subject of the article is notable". Only the official website and upgrade history "primarily cover" Windows 10, meaning that it is not in line. ViperSnake151  Talk  03:22, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for letting me know. I was unaware (or had forgotten) such a guideline existed, since I hardly ever touch the external links section. As for not advertising workarounds, that is a good idea. Now that I think about it, I remember seeing something about this "loophole" in a news article earlier today, and, you're right, something like that definitely should not be advertised on Wikipedia. (The same can be said of all those Pokemon Go maps. We talk about them in the article, but I don't believe we link to them.) -- Gestrid (talk) 03:35, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

Discussion with Stringlet

Thanks for the help. Much appreciated. Stringlet — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stringlet (talk • contribs) 04:36, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

You're welcome, Stringlet! Just so you know, I'm currently looking at the edits you made to Boarstall. We unfortunately can't make edits like this without discussing it on the talk page to get a consensus. -- Gestrid (talk) 04:42, 2 August 2016 (UTC)

I need help to resubmit a page that was placed on draft status

Hello: I have upgraded the Tony Rose page and made all the desired changes to the links and references. Now I need help to resubmit the page that was placed on draft status a few days ago. I read different instructions but cannot figure out the steps. Can someone please give me some help and direction? Thank you. YMARIYMARI (talk) 23:14, 3 August 2016 (UTC)

Hello, YMARI. I saw your post addressed to me written on your userpage a few days ago, but I didn't have time to reply at the time and forgot about that. I apologize for that. Just so you know for the future, if an editor wants to start a conversation with another editor, it's customary that the editor starting the conversation posts on the other editor's user talk page. That way, the editor is notified (via email, if they have that turned on in their settings) that someone has posted to their talk page. It's how I knew you posted here. The only reason I knew you tried to contact me on your talk page is because your user talk page is on my watchlist.
I'm sorry for the admittedly long explanation of talk pages, but I figured it's something you should know for the future.
Anyway, I've placed the {{AFC submission}} template on your article. All you have to do is click "Submit your draft for review!" and then click "Save page". Someone will review your draft within a few days and either give you advice on how to improve it or move it out of draft status. I hope your draft gets accepted! -- Gestrid (talk) 05:42, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
@YMARI: Also, it seems the image used in your article may be copyrighted, or it at least isn't filed under the correct copyright. Unfortunately, I had to start a discussion at c:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Tony-rose.jpg to see if it should be deleted or not as a copyright violation. I've already notified the uploader. I felt I should let you know because your article has the picture in it. Feel free to take part in the discussion, but you should know that, naturally, because you are a new user, your arguments may be given less weight than more experienced users. Arguments to keep the image should include Wikimedia Commons policies, which, even though Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons are sister sites, are different from Wikipedia's policies). -- Gestrid (talk) 06:04, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Commons:Deletion requests/File:Tony-rose.jpg

Dear Gestrid: I have been doing some work this morning and am just seeing your correspondence. The photo image that is being discussed is a photo that I took of Tony Rose and so I suppose this would be considered my copyright. Tony Rose has been using the photo as one of his headshots in his literature and press releases for many years and the blog that you Googled is one off Tony Rose's uploads with the photo. Please let me know if there is anything more I should do to rectify the discussion at Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Tony-rose.jpg. Thank you very much. YMARI YMARI (talk) 17:07, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

You took the photo? Why was it uploaded by Addicted2book, then? Do you have two accounts? -- Gestrid (talk) 19:41, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
After consulting with another Wikipedia user, I decided to mark the picture as a copyright violation. If you can provide evidence that you're the one that took the photo, it may not get deleted. You can provide the evidence on the file talk page. I'm sorry. -- Gestrid (talk) 02:05, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

Dear Gestrid:

I am sorry you had to take the Tony Rose picture down.

We had someone help us with the page and they uploaded the image that we gave them. I didn't realize that their name was addicted2books and since that time we have lost touch with them,which is why I took over everything to the best of my ability.

To give you a little history, I take many pictures of my husband Tony Rose and the one we used is our favorite. We send it out to a lot of press people and we use it in books for the author photo, etc. It is a very popular photo so I am sure it will turn up many places. The photo was taken more than 5 years ago and I no longer have the camera that I used. However, it has been uploaded and saved in my computer for a long time and is readily available whenever we need to send an image to anyone.

We would like to submit another photo but I have a few questions:

How do I resubmit a new image? How do I prove that I took the picture? Because it is my husband and because we use the pictures freely, and in a variety of ways, we never copyright any of them. I don't want to run into another problem, so if I upload a picture from my personal computer will that be okay? Do I need to make a statement of ownership or fill out a form online?

Please help me resolve the photo issue and guide me toward approval.

Thank you. YMARI YMARI (talk) 17:56, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

I've asked for help with your questions, as image upload policies are not my expertise. -- Gestrid (talk) 13:52, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
YMARI My sense is that you'd have to prove that you are the photographer. Is there some kind of source website that all other uses can be traced back to? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 14:09, 9 August 2016 (UTC)

Thank you

I recently saw the message you left on my talk page, and I would just like to say thanks. I have learned a lot about editing so far and in my opinion I think im doing well. And I just happen to be a master at the game Spyro 2: Ripto's Rage, so I decided "If I'm a master at it, why not make some edits to the wiki page?" I'm definitely proud of the edits I made. I might do more edits in the following week or two, but for now I'll stick to still learning. :)

Commander2006 (talk) 22:38, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

Hello, Commander2006! Thanks for the message! If you want to learn more about editing Wikipedia, I suggest you try either The Wikipedia Adventure (It's kinda cheesy, I know.) or you can try getting "adopted" by an experienced editor who can mentor you. Personally, I would do The Wikipedia Adventure because it takes less time, but that's just me. -- Gestrid (talk) 22:51, 4 August 2016 (UTC)

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rollback

Hi Gestrid. After reviewing your request for "rollbacker", I have enabled rollback on your account. Keep in mind these things when going to use rollback:

  • Getting rollback is no more momentous than installing Twinkle.
  • Rollback should be used to revert clear cases of vandalism only, and not good faith edits.
  • Rollback should never be used to edit war.
  • If abused, rollback rights can be revoked.
  • Use common sense.

If you no longer want rollback, contact me and I'll remove it. Also, for some more information on how to use rollback, see Wikipedia:New admin school/Rollback (even though you're not an admin). I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, but feel free to leave me a message on my talk page if you run into troubles or have any questions about appropriate/inappropriate use of rollback. Thank you for helping to reduce vandalism. Happy editing! Katietalk 13:52, 14 August 2016 (UTC)

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