User talk:Serial Number 54129/Archive 25

Your GA nomination of Murder of William de Cantilupe

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Take it to the Talk section in question

It is not disruptive to insist on a modicum of neutrality on somebody's page. If you think I'm wrong then take it to the Talk page on the article in question, where I've created a section about it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Balance66 (talk • contribs) 14:33, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Crawford family of the White Mountains

I've been reviewing what (mostly) I did at Crawford family of the White Mountains recently but can't spot any other sources that might be useful. I'm wondering whether to take it to WP:FA and what you might think about that. It's a long time since I bothered with the GA or FA processes and I probably have a stack of contenders. Not the best time for making trips to the library, of course, but everything at this article seems to be available online should there be any challenges. - Sitush (talk) 11:20, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

Reverted

Serial Number 54129,

I reverted your re-placement of the admin top icon. I did see you edit summary. Yes, it's his page, and users are given wide latitude on what can be on their page, historically (per ANI cases) anyone who had an admin icon on their page that wasn't an admin, had it removed ( WP:INACTIVITY pretty much makes it clear that any indicator that a person is an active sysop has to be removed. It goes to mis-representation. I realize RHawroth was an admin, I have no feelings one way or the other about him not having the bit. Him continuing to display the bit, however, would confuse new people, and that's not ok. Think of it this way, if I was displaying an administrators top icon, I would totally expect it to be removed for the same reason I removed it from RHaworth. It's not correct, and it's a mis-representation of my status on Wikipedia. Please leave it off his page unless he becomes an admin again. W.K.W.W.K...ALL Lives matter 16:24, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Yes, someone with an all lives matter signature is a paragon of righteousness...Praxidicae (talk) 16:25, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Praxidicae Actually, yeah. I believe all lives matter. It's not a racist slogan, don't make it into one. W.K.W.W.K...ALL Lives matter 16:30, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Interesting you perceived it that way, isn't it? Praxidicae (talk) 16:31, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

@Praxidicae: yeah, User:Wekeepwhatwekill is basically trolling with that, and more to the point, has effectively admitted it. ——Serial ^# 16:34, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

I'm sure you can imagine the shock on my face right now. Praxidicae (talk) 16:35, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

• SN 54.129*10^3, I agreed with you about this 6 months ago, when he'd just been desysopped and it looked like kicking him when he was down. But RH has had ample time to remove it himself. I'd find something better to do and not get into a whole thing. Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to figure out how to add a swastika to my signature. Not, of course, because I'm a Nazi, but because it's an ancient Indian religious symbol. --Floquenbeam (talk) 16:36, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Make sure to add a confederate flag too since "it's heritage not hate" and "it's just about the states rights!..." Praxidicae (talk) 16:37, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

@Floquenbeam: Yes, I remember; personally, I think the logic holds, since he's not catagorised. Anyway, the next campaign, I guess, will be against User:Wekeepwhatwekill's current talkpage, which is clearly against WP:ACCESS and MOS:CONTRAST. What a productive time we're all having. ——Serial ^# 16:40, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

• @Serial Number 54129: @Floquenbeam: you know, edits like this and the combined equivalent of a blue lives matter scheme talk page and their signature really makes me wonder if they're here at all...Praxidicae (talk) 16:44, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Good spot. It all makes sense, put like that. ——Serial ^# 16:48, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

also this from their userpage. Praxidicae (talk) 16:52, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

I have removed the contrast from their talk page. I have also warned them about BLP and attached the BLP discretionary sanctions alert. Will follow up. El_C 17:05, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

I was pinged earlier but I'm in the middle of something, but I think I should take time out to comment before this blows up too much. Yes, I did warn tell warntell Wekeepwhatwekill a few days ago that their signature was noncompliant (see my note on their talk page) and he made an effort to comply with the definitely-forbidden-by-policy bits (using a different user's name, and such). Although I'm also strongly of the opinion that putting "ALL lives matter" into one's signature, in this time of racial unrest in the western hemisphere and especially with the emphasis on ALL is a strongly racist anti-Black political statement. However, there is genuine (i.e. not just far-right assholes) debate about this, and admin tools are not supposed to be used to enforce one's political opinions, so I left it with advice that other users were likely to see it as deliberately offensive, and I thought implied he should expect to deal with the fallout from that. I didn't go so far myself (you can only beat a dead horse so much) but according to the guidelines I've read, this is an appropriate concern to raise at WP:RFC/U. What I'm saying here is I don't think Wekeepwhatwekill is trying to be disruptive on purpose. I didn't bring up the rendering issues with their user space at all because my note was loaded enough with to-dos already, but that definitely needed to go too. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 17:50, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

RFC/U shut down 6 years ago; I think ANI would be the place now? I'm not really advocating for that; there's something to be said for knowing right away, with a simple glance at a signature, what kind of person you're dealing with. -Floquenbeam (talk) 17:56, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks all, I guess we've done enough for one day  :) now I can get back to my total-utter-fucking disillusionment with the content fucking creation process farce and continue to wonder why I fucking bother position of previous. All the best! ——Serial ^# 18:02, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

Ugh, not WP:RFC/U, WP:RFC/N. Always good to check shortcuts before you post them. I'm sure ANI is fine too but it's more of a drama pit. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 18:54, 8 July 2020 (UTC)

@Wekeepwhatwekill: When I first heard "Black Lives Matter", my reaction was "All Lives Matter" too. Then I read up about how it's used. It doesn't mean "Only Black Lives Matter", it means "Black Lives Matter Too". Nobody is saying "Only Some Lives Matter". Saying "All Lives Matter" ignores the current issue, which is that black people are treated far worse than white people, being incarcerated and killed in far greater numbers than white people. By saying "Black Lives Matter", we hope to advance society to the point where it's no longer necessary to say it because we're treating all people with the same rights and dignity. --Danielklein (talk) 23:14, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

• Deal of the century @Praxidicae and Floquenbeam: Less than two months later, the curse of FIM has kicked in once again. Comme une Indien dans son igloo, Ça plane pour moi as it may also do for User:Wekeepwhatwekill now they have nothing so complicated as Wikipedia to be bothering their lives with. ——Serial 21:46, 31 August 2020 (UTC)

July 2020

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Hello, I'm CommanderWaterford. I noticed that you made a comment on the page User_talk:Number_57#July_2020 that didn't seem very civil, so it has been removed. Wikipedia is built on collaboration, so it's one of our core principles to interact with one another in a polite and respectful manner. If you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Perhaps you do not like this "automated" edit, too.. who knows CommanderWaterford (talk) 18:06, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

@CommanderWaterford: please stop pissing about leaving templates on experienced users' pages, and especially please stop treating the place like an MMPRPG. Also do not delete as personal attacks edits which are clearly not personal attacks as you did here. ——Serial ^# 18:11, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

🙄 is probably the best response to this template issuing. Also, hope you’re doing well, my dear integer :) TonyBallioni (talk) 18:21, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Serial Number 54129, are you telling me that grinding my blocking skill doesn't get me better blocking power? GeneralNotability (talk) 18:27, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

To misquote Robert Fripp, "Dropping a civility template isn't" Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 09:04, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Interesting observation

here, especially considering it isn't even the correct SPI, so they've watchlisted an SPI for a master that doesn't exist? Really pokes holes in their claims...Praxidicae (talk) 14:42, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Sheet, sorry about that Praxidicae, didn't notice those period points! but yeah, watchlisting noon-existant pages in advance? Brilliant  :) Shall I move it? ——Serial ^# 14:46, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

I'll move it later, it'll be a good exercise for me as a clerk since page moves are the bane of my existence. Praxidicae (talk) 14:48, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

sorry please dont ban me but why did you lot delete the JackMasseyWelsh page because he is a real person

SmallishBeans (talk) 10:32, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

@Cabayi:, yeah this^^^ mention of it seemed like a dogwhistle, but those editors you named (Realoliver9912 (talk · contribs), Liamevans000 (talk · contribs)—by the way, did they both create it?) are neither blocked nor seem to have gone on a rampage like this one, so maybe it's a coincidence? I couldn't really see any connection except that they're clearly all British/English/Welsh...and that's hardly an offence in itself  :) ——Serial ^# 12:06, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

Liam created it twice, Oliver once, and WorldMapper2 once at Jack Massey Welsh; Aloder27 once at JackMasseyWelsh; Sebbikul, Cloclo4, and Real Wiki99U, once each at Draft:JackSucksAtLife; and 47.42.195.76, and 90.253.110.125 once each at Draft:JacksucksatLife.

Throw in all the fan accounts, JackSuc..., Jacksuck..., JackMasseyW..., and Jack Massey W..., then the more I think about it the less it seems socky, just fancruft. I still haven't figured out why your talk page got picked on. Be well, Cabayi (talk) 16:22, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

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I saw the note to Ritchie333 - hope you don't mind me taking the liberty. Happy to see the bathrobe cabal back in action :) GirthSummit _(blether) 12:35, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for that Girth Summit. Yeah  :) the only problem, it makes me want to drink wine. Not helpful at 0700! All the best, ——Serial ^# 12:38, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

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Why did you place a warning on my talk page but not Melcous's? I am well aware of the sensitivity of COVID-19 pages since I am one of the daily updaters and the notice is prominently displayed at the top of the article. The only edit I've seen from Melcous on that page is the one reverting my edit. --Danielklein (talk) 23:00, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

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A School History of England

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Why did you revert my edit to User:favonian's talkpage? And you also reverted the revert on the Tulekuvan article

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Knock it off

Knock it off with the patronizing talk page comments. Keep the discussion to one channel, please. -- C. A. Russell (talk) 10:36, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Re [1]

Personal attacks against other editors (clueless users like User:Calton), calling other editors (dishonest), threatening to harass others (notwithstanding blatant invility (Quit fucking up)), more incivility (Grow up, grow a spine). Nah mate, you get the template. All the best! ——Serial ^# 10:53, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Also noting (from WP:ANEW, but for the record):

• Comments such as this—especially to a blocked user's User Page which you know they cannot edit—is outrageous: a personal attack is still a personal attack even if the recipient is indefinitely blocked.
• Comments such as "and then tries to retrofit some bullshit argument to justify their original actions. Let's watch the next instance of this unfold... now", rather suggest that this whole episode was engineered by CAR to get this very result. That's wholly unproductive behavior.
• This edit summary, is a clear personal attack, considering its contents (f*** Codename Lisa).
• Is C A Russell not aware of the policy regarding logged- out editing, which instructs that editors who are not logged in must not actively try to deceive other editors. In this particular case, it would appear they did both deliberately. ——Serial ^# 11:05, 15 July 2020 (UTC)
• Personal attacks continue (Go screw up some other part of the encyclopedia, combined with incivility in edit summaries (Go the fuck away, and then doubling down on the same PA. I think an ear trumpet might be required! ——Serial ^# 14:58, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

... and now you can knock it off with abusing template:rpa. I understand that you'd like to see me blocked, but how many policy pages are you going to erroneously invoke? The nonsense on the administrators' noticeboard with even DMacks pointing out how off-the-mark some were should have been enough, shouldn't it? It's telling that you didn't consider User:Drmies's message to cross the threshold of a personal attack--which *only* served to disrupt the talk page to add a taunt--but mine somehow was. -- C. A. Russell (talk) 15:03, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

See WP:ROPE. ——Serial ^# 15:08, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Sounds oddly reminiscent of someone trying to engineer a situation to prove a point. Clear now why that was the first thought you reached for. Because that's just one of the first thoughts you reach for, huh? -- C. A. Russell (talk) 15:14, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, we get it. You're always in the right, everyone else is in the wrong. Still, as long as you get to cast aspersions, make personal attacks, gaslight other editors and generally do what you like then everyone else deserves your walls-of text I guess. Well, until someone calls it WP:DE of course. —— § erial 16:09, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

• "One of the biggest problems with Wikipedia is that, like the real world, people tend to double down when they've slipped up, instead of just saying 'yeah, that shouldn't have happened'" -- Good advice, wouldn't you say, C. A. Russell? Maybe you should admit that you cocked up by coming here to play the civility card whilst seeming to ignore the real incivility that SN links to? Cassianto^Talk 17:15, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

What is this other than an attempt at provocation (on another user's talkpage) once the moment has passed? Grow up. -- C. A. Russell (talk) 21:32, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

C. A. Russell, you came here. If you don't like it, bugger off and annoy someone else. Cassianto^Talk 21:56, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

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Indefinitely blocked

Is this for real, Serial Number? I can't find it anywhere in the logs, though god knows I'm not well-versed in the minutia of edit filters. Oshwah seems to be active, I wonder if he's willing to take a look. Vanamonde (Talk) 15:41, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Not to worry, Serial is preparing an appeal to Serial. Perhaps in can be cut to half of indefinite. Preferably, the good half. O3000 (talk) 15:54, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Oh, wow... interesting... ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 18:06, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

So this was how it all started; with the Wikinews abuse filter. --Floquenbeam (talk) 16:01, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Well spotted, 'beam; sorry to worry you Vanamonde, it was only at WikiNews. So I barely noticed  ;)

Absloutely kafkaesque though. I tried to report an LTA that was in the process of trolling (and had just been blocked here), and as a result of trying to file the report, was blocked indefinitely for doing so...following which of course the LTA proceeds to vandalise my talk page there...and me incapable of doing anything about it. Totally bizarre. —— § erial 16:09, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

That's...truly bizarre. I'm glad I edit here, and not in the wild west that that seems to be. Since you now owe me a favor for hotfooting it over here, can you stop Clint from floating around your talk page and hiding a good bit of it? Vanamonde (Talk) 16:25, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Probably best to indef until SN agrees to comply. I heard he has a reputation for triggering edit filters on other projects, has even been blocked for it. Better safe than sorry, I always say. Levivich ^{[dubious – discuss]} 17:03, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Levivich Why not go for the big money—blocked over three projects, however minor?—that's Global Lock time! I'm sure you could get a couple of others—say, the Burkino Faso Wikivoyage and the Antarctica Wikispecies?—to play along  :) —— § erial 17:28, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

BRB, gotta go run for RFA at Antarctica Wikispecies. Levivich ^{[dubious – discuss]} 17:54, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

You gotta buy off all them polar bears, you know  ;) —— § erial 18:45, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

I'm feeling confident: on that project, being a fishy new user is a good thing. Levivich ^{[dubious – discuss]} 19:05, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Indeed! :-) ~Oshwah~^{(talk) (contribs)} 18:07, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

They even had the cohones to thank me for my first edit. Once the block was removed that is. Interestingly the editor who blocked the LTA I'd tried to report) never got back to me; never remedied it; never replied to my email. And he's currently running for their Arbcom; I'm sure communication—particularly on a so-called news outlet!—is pretty important. Wish I had a vote there... (thinks about it) but then, if I had, I bet I would've been unblocked quicker :D —— § erial 18:44, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Andy Auld (Royal Navy officer)

Deletion has been contested by two regular contributors. Don't restore that template. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 13:26, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

Nice try. Next stop will be WP:ANEW. But then, you know that already. —— § erial 13:27, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) Considering you (7&6) are one of the top editors of that article, I don't really think it's appropriate for you to be assessing a speedy such as a g4...Praxidicae (talk) 13:28, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

So take it to AFD. That is your remedy. "Speed deletion" has been well contested.

Removing the 'Speedy deletion' template is simply a ministerial act at this point. So do it. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 14:05, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

• @TPS: this refers to a couple of quiet (ha!) discussions that started off here and moved to WP:AN. Happy days! —— § erial 18:26, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

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Hello

I am certain I made no references to you anywhere. Sadly the talk page is deleted, but perhaps JzG or another admin will check for you. I want no friction with any editors. My best to you. I just got a notice that I made my ten thousandth edit. Sadly it was on AN. Milestones. Lightburst (talk) 15:56, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

Sig

You may want to add a non-breaking space (&n​bsp;) between the "§" and the "erial" in your signature to keep it all on one line. I was reading a discussion where it was split by a line break due to the screen width. Best — Wug·a·po·des​ 19:17, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Wugapodes, for the information; as it happens, that drew my attention to the fact that the § was probably making the username harder rather than easier to identify (per WP:CUSTOMSIG/P), so I've got rd of it and the space. Thanks anyway.

Another addition to Joel B. Lewis's Musée des Sigs  :) —— Serial 12:32, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

List of Spinnin' Records sublabels

I'm happy to report that the content from this page per the AfD has been merged successfully. It did have to take me to merge the tables into the existing list, but it was done. Jalen Folf (talk) 22:53, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for doing that JalenFolf, we can rest easy  :) Hope you're well! ——Serial 08:36, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

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Sorry SN, didn't see that you had earlier closed and unclosed that one, otherwise I would have left it. My bad :) Britishfinance (talk) 11:23, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

Rolling Stones Bust

Just thinking aloud, this probably wants to be called something like Rolling Stones Redlands Bust. Arguably, the Toronto Bust of 1977 was more significant; IIRC Keith Richards was lucky not to be charged with "intent to supply" which carried a life sentence. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 15:16, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

@Ritchie333: please desist from improving articles just because you can :p

That makes sense thoug. Feel free to move it if you want—or I can, I don't mind—I was thinking of disambiguating by date, as it goes, as I'm tempted to get ~all their (Richards esp!) escapades written up. Didn't one involve possession of guns?!

Incidentally, you wouldn't happen to have a source that states this was their jail jingle, would you? I'm finding itb difficult to source that precise phrase. Hope all's well! ——Serial 15:29, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

I am certain that the liner notes to Rolled Gold: The Very Best of the Rolling Stones say "We Love You was their jail jingle; John and Paul sang harmonies". There's a discogs scan here but the text is too small to read. Still, I guess a {{cite AV media notes}} would suffice for verifiability. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 15:35, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

@Ritchie333: Brilliant, I bet they do...my dad's got RG on vinyl, and I bet that's where I saw the phrase originally  :) many moons ago! Are sleeve notes an RS though? ——Serial 15:38, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

I first learned all the Stones' classics by a cassette of RG that my dad left lying around the house somewhere. Generally, sleeve notes are reliable sources, though sometimes you have to say "according to [sleeve note author] / [record company]", and sometimes they make mistakes (such as copies of A Saucerful of Secrets spelling David Gilmour's name wrong) Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 15:42, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

Ha! Yeah, the "Male model"  :) btw, wots "ancient art of weaving", Ritchie333? ——Serial 22:21, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

That's the Stones style of playing, with guitarists swapping between lead and rhythm within the same song. So Richards isn't really a "lead" guitarist, he plays guitar in a general sense. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 09:28, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, Richards loves to wax lyrical about how he and Wood's playing meld together so you can't tell which is lead and which is rhythm. Personally I think their best period was with Mick Taylor in the band, who unlike those two was definitely a lead guitarist. P-K3 (talk) 12:39, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

Reverting my edit on a talk page

Please tell me why did you reverted that edit on a talk page. Its a legitimate comment and not a personal attack so there is no point of reverting that, so can you please tell me why? User3749 (talk) 16:18, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Plays *Hold music* @Levivich: would you happen to have recently acquired anything of an illustrative nature with which I might reply to this editor? ——Serial 16:24, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Why, I did recently acquire such an illustration! This user has already been through the laundry though. (So much for checkusers not linking accounts with IPs!) Levivich ^{[dubious – discuss]} 17:06, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

(Saw this since SN had drawn my attention to this thread elsewhere) CU did not link an account to an IP in that case. I never checked, so it’d have been impossible for me to make such a link. We’re allowed to comment behaviourally and saying “it looks like the IP user just created an account because the Help text suggests they should” isn’t a violation of the privacy policy. TonyBallioni (talk) 17:21, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Heh. Thanks L  :)

@User3749: Ah. Well, you're a very new editor, that's a very high profile page and the topic is an emotive one; while your support is assuredly appreciated it should probably be made on your own page or, perhaps not at all. I see you are interested in advanced permissions; I'd suggest focusing on content work and not so much edits such as that, which draw unnecessary attention to you. Or for that matter, edits such as this where you advised an administrator with over a decade's experience and a million edits how to block an IP. Not cool bro. But here's some scripts you can choose from, a few of which show you on their talk page what rights/tenure/edit count etc that editor has. ——Serial 17:15, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

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Paintwork

Check out the cymbal work on this. Its reminiscent of This Nations Saving Grace, but completly its own thing too. Also, they are paddies. Ceoil (talk) 20:10, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

RfC Closure

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I would be much obliged if you were able to answer the query I have about this closure. Yours Faithfully, Etsnev (talk) 16:30, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

July 2020

Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, discussion pages are meant to be a record of a discussion; deleting or editing legitimate comments, as you did at User talk:CommanderWaterford, is considered bad practice, even if you meant well. Even making spelling and grammatical corrections in others' comments is generally frowned upon, as it tends to irritate the users whose comments you are correcting. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Please see WP:BLANKING for precisely why editors are allowed to remove most messages and threads from their user talk pages. ——JorgeLaArdilla (talk) 11:58, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

How imaginative, copy-pasting my warning to you—and you even left half my signature in there. Incredible. Anyway, you're trolling now, so ANI time. ——Serial 12:19, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Sigh, created an ANI thread on them (sorry didn't know if you were busy so thought I'd help), cheers,. –Davey2010^Talk 12:42, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Cheers Davey2010, yeah i was busy...starting an ANI thread :D :p ——Serial 12:45, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Oops sorry, I've removed my report as yours was 10x better :), –Davey2010^Talk 12:46, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

​ Nah, just a perfect lesson in how great minds think alike eh? :D thanks for everything mate. ——Serial 12:48, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Haha very true! :), No worries happy editing :), –Davey2010^Talk 12:51, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Things that will definitely end well.

certainly not thisPraxidicae (talk) 15:03, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Obviously a fan of Final Destination... ——Serial 16:21, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

(fits the header;) Thank you for your support for Monteverdi's operas that now became a featured topic! ... exactly 10 years after both Brian and I were declared awesome ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:55, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

Closures

Hiya, this may be an odd question, but...from what I've seen, most discussions on Ani are closed and given a bluish background. I have seen a few closed with lavender, however the one you just closed [2] is a parchment yellow. I was just curious if there was any sort of MOS for the colours, or do the closers just get to choose? Apologies for the randomness of the query, but who better to ask! Curdle (talk) 16:34, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you!

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Short version: No

In order for Arbcom to accept a case against an administrator with a reasonable chance of a favourable outcome you need a few things. 1. A pattern of behaviour of misuse of tools and/or conduct unbecoming. This realistically means at least 3 occasions when admin has done something, and has been pulled up on it by the community. 2. Clear evidence the misuse of tools is against policy as it is interpreted by the community. Which means structured discussions at AN/ANI etc. Even then, if the admin argues good faith misinterpretation and vows to mend their ways, then they will get a slap on the wrist and let off. Which is how it *should* be (assuming the contrition is genuine) for every editor. The Super Mario Effect will kick in however. But this is fundamentally why WP:BLOCK states that blocks are to be preventative not punitive. Specifically to prevent admins who have a bee in their bonnet about a particular issue from donning the jackboots and stomping away. Only in death does duty end (talk) 17:01, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

@OID: Only one case of ADMINACCT/COND need warrant a case, but you're right wrt the bigger picture.

Incidentally, the thing to do is, not reply to the email, but just use the "email this user function". All the best, ——Serial 17:04, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

NP. Only in death does duty end (talk) 17:11, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

You know what's funny

An "anarchist communist group" with a copyright notice on its website. [3] Levivich ^{[dubious – discuss]} 18:42, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

August 2020

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The phrase is repeating a personal attack. Lightburst (talk) 02:22, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

So is calling another editor "belligerent", but you go ahead. I note it's not that long since you were warned by an admin for making personal attacks on ANI; be mindful. ——Serial 02:39, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

August 2020

Your recent editing history at WP:ANI shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you do not violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Darkknight2149 02:28, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

@Darknight2149: I respect your input—that you warned Lightburst as well, for instance—but to borrow a phrase you might already know: "you're not doin' any good back there, Wedge". ——Serial 02:42, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

@Darkknight2149: (insufficient k's.) ——Serial 02:43, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Add one more and it's gonna be trouble! ^Lev!v^ich 02:53, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

@Levivich: ...watched Mississippi Burning other night. Now that's film with arseholes. But not ARSholes, I hasten to add, because that would be a personal attack with as many K's... ——Serial 04:05, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

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@Darkknight2149: [4] If I were the acting administrator...I think you've just ensured against that possibility for some time. ——Serial 04:07, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Lenin the elephant

During some insomniac browsing, seeing this[5] caused a LOL which unfortunately woke my wife. Thanks for that! Alexbrn (talk) 08:04, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

Heh Alexbrn  :) apologies to your good lady. Probably a good thing I couldn't work Stalin in somewhere. All the best, ——Serial 16:40, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

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IWGB page

Hi, I got your message saying that I removed content without good reason to do so. I disagree. The IWGB claims to have have taken over my case against Uber. This is not true and I have explained why. The article relies on press coverage from IWGB press releases. It's a PR echo chamber. However, it is my life and my experience. I know what the truth is and I object to wikipedia erasing the truth and replacing it with something you now know to be untrue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamesfarrar (talk • contribs) 14:06, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

@Jamesfarrar: Thanks for this. Unfortunately, at the moment it's a matter of unjustified (at this point in time) removal of reliably sourced, verifiable material.But—

If you are who you say you are (I'm not saying you're not—but on Wikipedia, a username could be anyone!), your suggestion would count for much, and it was indeed such a high-profile case in the movement that any union would be proud to have backed it (including, of course, the GMB). But I hope you'll understand we shouldn't take your word for who you are; after all, if you found us taking the word of someone impersonating you, you'd be rightly hacked off and want something done about it.

That doesn't mean you can't do anything about it: we have a system for you to prove your identity, privately and in confidence, and without much difficulty. Once that's out the way, the echo chamber, as it were, can be opened. ——Serial 14:22, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Yes, happy to hand in my id etc. Before I do can you answer comments from ADCUnion about your sources regarding UPHD and what you describe as rebranding. I can't see anything in the public domain. What is your source for this? Lets have full transparency please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamesfarrar (talk • contribs) 17:10, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Jamesfarrar, Oh, absolutely is communiction required, or what. By the way, in a similar vein, any connection between you and the interestedly-conflicted User:ADCUnion, whom I note has not edited since asking exactly the same question? (To clarify, any answer along the lines of "No I just saw this on the internet" as if that was akin to just channel-hopping on Danish TV would be profoundly unsatisfactory).

To answer your question, an article I linked to in the list of sources on the IWGB talk page explicitly states that ACDU's founders had previously operated under the UPHD banner; whether the organisation as a whole rebranded or the leading lights just did a Judean People's Front is wholly irrelevant. (Remember ATCU, anyone?). All the best, ——Serial 17:57, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Yes. I am General Secretary of the ADCU. https://www.adcu.org.uk/national-executive-commitee Where is the conflict of interest in that? As a trade union, the ADCU doesn't do 'leading lights', we are a collective of workers trying hard to make the world a better place for ourselves and others. We try to take our work seriously but not ourselves. Not sure the Judean people's front comment moves the conversation very far forward. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamesfarrar (talk • contribs) 21:55, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

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It "failed" because I withdrew the nom, you cretinous software. Mind you, as an article, it's near publishable, and even nearer FAC-level: but when I realised the GA reviewer didn't actually know what they were doing, I refuse to offer my nads up to a time-wasting exercise. Augend, you lack the experience and ability to review an article of Adrian IV's calibre: I have no idea why you chose to; BlueMoonset does, and I have no idea why they encouraged you. ——Serial 07:15, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

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Edits

Hi, what edits are you referring to? I haven't edit any Wikipedia articles. --Optra2021 (talk) 10:27, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

You have spammed 8 different editors in an attempt to get them to take sides with you on Arameans. Please do not do that. ——Serial 10:39, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

User Mugsalot just started edit warrings on the Arameans article as predicted. There is currently a dispute case being discussed (See link below) opened by Mugsalot, yet not being closed, but he simply reverted the previous content. He is not an authorized administrator to make such decisions. Could you please take a look, if his actions violate against Wikipedias policy? Many thanks in advance.

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Fancy giving it a review?

You know, just while you're there... Happy to pay - one badmin block, two deletions, or five revdels. GirthSummit _(blether) 15:52, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

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The fourth round of the competition has finished, with 865 points being required to qualify for the final round, nearly twice as many points as last year. It was a hotly competitive round with two contestants with 598 and 605 points being eliminated, and all but two of the contestants who reached the final round having achieved an FA during the round. The highest scorers were

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September 2020

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It's incredible. ProcrastinatingReader (talk) 04:37, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Concerned

I am greatly concerned that our revered integer one has not edited for over three weeks! What's going on? Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 12:43, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

+1 Ditto! Not the same without familiar integers popping up on the watchlist from time to time. Usedtobecool ☎️ 13:02, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

+1 Weird not seeing your name on my wathlist SN, Hope you're okay!. –Davey2010^Talk 13:20, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

• I share these concerns. -Roxy the inedible dog . wooF 13:23, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Last off-wiki communication I had was August 30. I don't actually know his real name so I can't do a social media check. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 13:27, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Ritchie333, no response on email? Usedtobecool ☎️ 13:47, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Usedtobecool I've dropped him an email, asking if everything's alright. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 14:06, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Ritchie333, you're a good man. SN hope you're okay. Glen (talk) 14:10, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

I was in touch with SN via e-mail a few days ago. He's fine. Bishonen | tålk 14:24, 24 September 2020 (UTC).

Knowing SN is okay is a great relief. Celestina007 (talk) 14:46, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the update Bishonen, Very glad to know all's fine. –Davey2010^Talk 16:17, 24 September 2020 (UTC)

Phew. Ceoil (talk) 17:39, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

"Wikipedia:NOTBIBLIOGRAPHY" listed at Redirects for discussion

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Missing cite in Iago's manipulativeness and character

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A toast sandwich for you!

I think you need to get your calories in time when you spend long hours on Wikipedia while ignoring your daily meal. Stay healthy! Nizil (talk) 07:55, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

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Your draft article, Draft:Cognizance IITR

Hello, Serial Number 54129. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Cognizance IITR".

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@Liz: I've been in touch with SN54129 - AFAIK he is okay, just not interested in editing right now for whatever reason. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 15:06, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

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