User talk:Xiaopo

Boo!

Greetings comrade! I hope you like this place and get very addicted. --Jiang 08:23, 27 Oct 2003 (UTC)

Moooooo! --Jia ng

Comrade, please copy the redirect text into the summary field so it's clear that you are making a redirect. Cheers, Jia ng

"penkyamp" could be a general noun

Keep: Fellow Wikipedians, please pause and think for a second: do you know the exact origin and meaning of "penkyamp" in the Cantonese language? Proper nouns(let's have no doubt that "Penkyamp" is indeed a proper name for the orthography), have varying degrees of SPECIFICITY. The fact that the name "penkyamp" does not automatically lead us to the origin of such system doesn't mean that such system wasn't in use under different names. Let's see: "penkyamp" as a GENERAL NOUN is inspired by Mandarin "pinyin", which is itself both a proper name for a system and a general noun designating "phonetic script". As a result, "penkyamp" as a general noun has been in use among the Cantonese referring to any phonetic script since at least the birth of the Mandarin Pinyin. And "Penkyamp" as a proper noun for a specific system might not be in place well after this system was in use for many years, only until it was introduced to us as such. What if on-line records before 2003 has been mostly erased?

Besides, the article started under the entry Cantonese Romanization instead of Penkyamp. Maybe back then "Penkyamp" wasn't finalized as its only proper name. It could be "Lomazi" or "Zeuyamp". At least it's nothing as specific as "Jyutpin" (a name that is hightly stylized and specified as a "PINyin"--note: not a Cantonese pronunciation--- of the "Jyut"(Guangdong)-- nothing can get as specific as this, which will garantee to trace back to its origin as an officially sponsored scheme). But "penkyamp" is not as specific as this. It means "phonetic script", is spelled as is pronounced in Cantonese, and is in circulation among the Cantonese thanks to the already existing Mandarin "Pinyin". I urge you to think twice about our obsession with the specificity of the proper name of the entry: what you call "Penkyamp" is actually of secondary relevance. The question is, what kind of usage, or systems were in existence before this name was finalized, on Wikipedia? look a nazi was here hahah

Cantonese romanization

Did you look up the Yale of each char from that Amazon.com dictionary? I use Jyutping from Lin Yutang's -Menchi (Talk)Ã¢ 07:59, 31 Dec 2003 (UTC)willfardo was here being hi

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at Image:China imperialism cartoon.jpg --Jia ng

Yale Romanization

What you wrote about Yale Romanization#Cantonese Chinese is long and encyclopedic enough to be its own article. I recommend you slice it into Cantonese Yale Romanization or another article with similar title. --Menchi (Talk)Ã¢ 13:01, 2 Jan 2004 (UTC)

But the Yale Romanization article itself isn't as long. If we siphon off the different types of Yale, will it be a perpetual stub? --Jia ng 13:03, 2 Jan 2004 (UTC)

(Replying here since Jiang already replied) Seems like writing a longer article for Mandarin Yale and making Yale Romanization a disambiguation would be a good solution. Or maybe it just seems that way because I'm so sleep deprived. :-P You can move it if you like, I'll talk to you about this again after I wake up. --Xiaopo's Talk 13:17, Jan 2, 2004 (UTC)

Yale Romanization, from my understanding, can only be a disambiguation. As the 4 Yales are not one system at all, therefore probably completely unrelated linguistically. --Menchi (Talk)Ã¢ 13:46, 2 Jan 2004 (UTC)

hihihihi

Hi, Jiang. Stop trolling my talk page. :-P --Xiaopo's Talk

Manchu names

Hello. I let you know that "manju" is the Manchu name for the Manchus and that "Hong Taiji" is the Manchu spelling for the Manchu emperor called "Huang Taiji" in Chinese. --Nanshu 02:26, 10 Jan 2004 (UTC)

hihihi

Die, heathen swine. --taion 05:23, 24 Feb 2004 (UTC)

LDS and Protestantism

Mormonism is traditionally considered to be a branch off from Protestantism - its development happened after the PR, and in the environment created by Protestantism (and American colonialism). So, in Christianity, there are generally considered to be 3 main branches - HRC, EO, and P, of which M remains an anomaly within P. Of course this is not a subjective classification - the LDS may say something quite different. -SV(talk) 20:38, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)

OK- I understand. Im not disagreeing with your statement that Mormonism doesnt quite fit into the Protestant category, but does it not fit in the same way that the UU church doesnt fit? If you say there are four categories -HRC, EO, P, and Other, then yes Mormonism, categorically could fit into the other category. If you have three categories (which tends to make a bit more sense, when talking long term history) this would include mormonism, and perhaps UUniversalism, though I, having a POV on that might argue for a whole new category for UU, but someone can argue that it belongs under Protestantism. Are you a Mormon? It may have bearing as to how you see this, and in terms of your view as POV. Sincerely,-SV(talk) 07:37, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Media Wiki Cults

Hello Xiaopo,

I adapted the Media wiki cults I hope you find it okay now and that you reconsider and change your comments on Vote for deletion of media wiki

It is a complicated but important subject and I think the Media Wiki cults helps people to understand it. Andries 20:25, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Emperor Norton

Emperor Norton was not an emperor, a monarch, or an official of the United States. As such, his article belongs under the name he was known by: Emperor Norton or Joshua Norton or Joshua A. Norton, not a name that Wikipedia conventions would dictate if he had actually been a monarch of some kind! - Nunh-huh 00:13, 13 Jun 2004 (UTC)

The naming convention is that people's articles belong under the name they were most known by. For this dude, that's "Emperor Norton". "As he was emperor" is simply wrong: he wasn't. If you want it moved somewhere else, by all means argue your case on his talk page and gain a concensus for moving it there. - Nunh-huh 00:25, 13 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Sanskrit transliteration

The Sanskrit message you posted has been transliterated on VP. If you have any questions, leave me a msg on my talk page. Salasks 06:26, Aug 11, 2004 (UTC)

Naming conventions

Hi Xiaopo,

I've rephrased the options a bit (hope you don't mind ;) ) and added my vote. -- [[User:Ran|ran (talk)]] 16:48, Sep 19, 2004 (UTC)

Article Licensing

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 2000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:

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VfD on Cantonese Romanization systems

Please give your comments on the following two votes for deletion:

You are invited because I have found you on Penkyamp's talk page and I believe that you can make a fair judgement. -- Felix Wan 19:43, 2004 Dec 31 (UTC)

Claims of the Orthodox

Concerning your recent edit of the Eastern Orthodox. The statement was made that:

Its claims of originality are easily verifiable and are generally not disputed by any other major Christian group including the Roman Catholics.

You have said that the Roman Catholics do dispute it. This is incorrect. I quote directly from the decrees of the Vatican Council II concerning the Eastern Orthodox Churches:

1. The Catholic Church reveres these Eastern Churches, which are "living witnesses to the tradition which has been handed down from the apostles through the Fathers..."

3. ...Similarly, the Council recognizes the validity of Holy Orders conferred in the Eastern Churches...The Eastern patriarchs ranks as cardinal bishops.

Phiddipus 18:26, 12 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Thanx

This is just to acknowledge your message on my talk page. It's always gratifying to know that someone's reading my site and that it's shaping and moving world opinion :)

Bathrobe 15:01, 10 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

You rock

Just though I'd note that. Every now and then I find an old comment of yours that really makes me smile... +sj + 00:05, 10 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

California Hindu textbook Controversy

Given a choice between HAF and FOSA, HAF is more reliable because the US government recognizes HAF as a taxed non-partisan org whereas FOSA is known to have terrorist connections (See FOSA article on wikipedia and refs to the "Allah will destroy the terrorist state of India" incident) and so fails reliability per the extrmist clause of WP:Reliable Sources. Thank you.Hkelkar 01:25, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Which sentence are you talking about exactly?Hkelkar 03:04, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you're talking about this diff:

http://wiki.eso.workers.dev/w/index.php?title=Californian_Hindu_textbook_controversy&diff=78179518&oldid=78178450 Then both FOSA and HAF/HEF's claims are presented.You can't delete a sourced statement.Hkelkar 03:06, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Also, my personal opinion is irrelevant on wikipedia (bear in mind that the original edit wasn't mine either). It is about reliability. HAF/HEF are recognized by the US government as a tax-exempt, non-profit and non-partisan organization under 501(c)(3) of the IRS tax code. (Tax I.D. 68-055-1525). The IRS does not make partisan orgs tax-deductible wrt donations. However, no such recognition exists for FOSA, which has Pakistani members who are affiliated with terrorism. Thus, HAf is reliable and FOSA is not. FOSA thus, must be cited with qualification and HAF does not have to be.Hkelkar 03:11, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I checked WP:RS. It states that partisan sources should be qualified. HAF is registered as a non-partisan source.Hkelkar 03:22, 28 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Out of India

the theory is nonsense. It is forwarded by a few fringe authors. I agreed there can well be an article about it, which I suppose is fair enough at present, but now people go about misrepresenting it as a valid scholarly alterantive in all possible and impossible places. This isn't honest, and I reverted it where I saw such activity. The idea may well be briefly mentioned here and there if that means we'll have peace from the constant stream of Hindutva nonsense (which I doubt), but it is not acceptable to portray it as anything other as a fringy minority view. I should be glad if you helped watch articles in this respect. regards, dab (ᛏ) 16:17, 30 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Please see my comments here on this topic. Note that I am one in apparent "constant stream of Hindutva nonsense". Nobleeagle ^[TALK] [C] 05:40, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

blank maps

hi Xiaopo -- I created the map with OMC. This tool has the considerable advantage that it lets you choose the projection, useful for maps of large territories (Eurasia) and the polar regions. Other than that, you might find the tool by demis.nl more useful (which I used, for example, for Image:Iron Age Italy.png. I used the GIMP for adding layers. regards, dab (ᛏ) 10:05, 23 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sanskrit Wiki

Hello, I saw that you translated the Sanskrit Babel boxes. You may consider joining Sanskrit Wikipedia, which only has less than 1000 articles and is in need of great help. Thank you Gizza^Chat ^© 23:32, 19 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Goodwork!

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		I, — Nearly Headless Nick ^{L} award you the Barnstar of Diligence for your efforts in providing good sources and references on Narendra Modi article. Keep up the good work. — Nearly Headless Nick ^{L} 15:17, 27 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Wha?

looky here [1]. "You don't seem to have any edits or you don't exist." That's right. You are being deceived into thinking that you are editing wikipedia when you are not.

Keep up the same level of editing as today and you can be on the path to true wikiaddition. 2000 before december! --Jiang 22:44, 30 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your Posts on My Talkpage

I'm not very familiar with Linux/Unix and I have found the information you posted on my talk page very informative. Thanks. BhaiSaab ^talk 05:40, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

"Note to BhaiSaab—I happen to think it's unlikely that he and Subhash bose are socks." That would quickly change after a two minute conversation with aksi great. Regardless of what you think of the case, I'm still appreciative of this info. BhaiSaab ^talk 07:23, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I don't particularly want to get involved in this mess, and in any case, I think aksi great only offered to show interested admins. --Xiaopo (Talk) 07:25, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I will ask permission from Dmcdevit and aksi great to disclose this information on the arbcom case since much of it is already available due to Hkelkar's/Subhash bose's disclosures. BhaiSaab ^talk 07:28, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Need to brush up on your Linux networking

Regarding your edits to BhaiSaab:

Like I said, there are easier ways to go about this than all this SSH nonsense, which is BhaiSaab's absurd thesis. He contends that I have been using twist.ph.utexas.edu remotely using SSh and I have demonstrated how impractical that is. As for the SOCKS proxy server theory, just go ahead and run an nmap port scan on twist.ph.utexas.edu and show me the ports where a SOCKS proxy server is running. You won't find any :). I don't need to take anyone for fools, evidently... Hkelkar 06:37, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Plus, if I were to set up an stunnelled proxy server on twist.ph.utexas.edu, I'd need root access, wouldn't I? You know of any admins who indiscriminately give root access to their users?Plus, if they ran one by default, they'd say so on their info pages where they have listed all running servces (only SSH is forwarded out of the lan).Hkelkar 06:41, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hkelkar, you should probably keep this centralized to one talk page so it's coherent for anyone who wants to look back at it. Thanks. BhaiSaab ^talk 07:02, 31 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Your exact position

What is your position regarding my edits to the criticism of Human Rights Watch? Do you regard them as not NPOV? I invite your contribution if you can site specific passages that you may have a problem with.Hkelkar 01:02, 1 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

If you will see my post to the talk page Talk:Human Rights Watch, you will see that I have provided some crude preliminary evidence that establishes the notability of SAAG. It is an academic think tank with some really good and unbiased articles on terrorism and religious communalism in South Asia.I believe that ADL, while a notable org for advocacy for Jews and other minorities in America, are less notable on international and political matters than SAAG, which has a team of qualified academics on these matters (bear in mind that ADL has been criticized even by Jews in USA for being too liberal and ignoring antisemitism coming from some personalities like that Italian politician whose name escapes me at the moment, or, more importantly, Fidel Castro).Hkelkar 01:24, 1 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hinduism

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Wikipedia:WikiProject India/Translation

Maybe you would like to add some scripts to Hindu articles that need them. They are listed there.--D-Boy 19:39, 14 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Arbitration

Hi, thanks for the suggestion. I was not aware that we could link to a section of a page on previous revisions and that is why I did not do that. BhaiSaab ^talk 21:31, 15 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, if Hkelkar is a sockpuppet, than that means Shiva's Trident week-long block that began on August 21st was circumvented. BhaiSaab ^talk 02:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

The paragraphs about historians presenting conflicting theories on Ta Mo do not belong in the opening section of the article. They should be placed properly in the subsequent sections. Plus the article did not mention Ryuchi and others and the conflicts within their theories. Thanks for your intrest in this and your message. Cheers and Happy Editing. Freedom skies 19:45, 16 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

SAAG (not spinach)

Per your suggestion, I have started a South Asia Analysis Group article.Care to contribute?Hkelkar 22:12, 17 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Panini

Original Message: http://wiki.eso.workers.dev/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Unre4L&redirect=no#Panini

I dont wish to break any rules, but the information is clearly wrong, and if you notice, its only Indian members who are arguing with me. (If you can call that arguing) I really wish to get this matter sorted. Can you put a disputed sign on the article as I dont know how to.

Thx. user:Unre4L

It is not "only Indian members", I for one am no Indian, and I certainly agree that "India" was in use as a term for the subcontinent long before the foundation of the Republic of India. If anything, "RoI" is a misnomer (since it doesn't even include the Indus), but one we've to put up with now, of course. dab (𒁳) 09:03, 15 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A China/Ireland/Congo/Macedonia solution for India seems the most sensible way out of this mess. I've proposed this here, and would welcome support. Note also the problems of History of Turkey vs. History of Anatolia (similar to History of Pakistan vs. History of India) dab (𒁳) 09:01, 15 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

IRC channel cloak

My username is Xiaopo, my master IRC nick is xiaopo, and I would like the cloak wikipedia/xiaopo. --Xiaopo (Talk) 06:51, 16 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, there is a content dispute in the Malayalee article regarding the origin of the word Malayalee. The region of Kerala was also known as "Malayala" for a while (I believe, before Malayalam evolved) therefore, it would seem logical that this word would have come from Old Tamil (Malai + Āzham or Malai + Āli). However, certain editors there seem to believe that Malayalam did not evolve from Tamil at all. They go so far as to say that it evolved independently and seem to think that it is "utter nonsense" (verbatim) to say that Malayalam could have evolved from Tamil. These editors keep asking for references (which I have provided) and I have even pointed them to the Tamil language and Malayalam language articles. However, they either haven't or don't want to check out these links/references. I see that you have some expertise in Dravidian languages and linguistics. Could you please weigh in on the discussion? The page is currently protected pending resolution of the discussion. Thanks a bunch! --vi5in^[talk] 20:47, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hello please ignore this person's comment. He is bluffing.we have not told anything contradicting the relationship b/w two languages Malayalam and Tamil. He has not provided any link(atleast) which says the words(Malai and aali) come from any language. I think wikipedia is not the place to add unvarifed content and anyone's political views.Tulu war 17:52, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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