Talk:2nd Army Corps (France)

Merge 2nd Army Corps into this article

This merge was originally proposed on the Grandee Artice but then I took it down thinking it was suited for AfD. I was told there to come back here to propose a merge. The following is taken from the AfD which lists my reasoning for the merge:

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The result was Nomination withdrawn‎. The Bushranger _{One ping only} 06:15, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

II Corps (Grande Armée)

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I orginally proposed this as a merger but upon further notice I realized that the article should be deleted and its content should be merged into the other article. The post was as follows:

I propose that this article is merged in to the 2nd Army Corps (France) article for two main reasons: WP:Consistent and WP:Overprecision. The 2nd Army Corps wasn't just involved in the Napoleonic Wars but also was involved in World War I, and World War II. These periods are all part of the same unit should be reflected in one article as a continuity of the same unit. This will help the information be consolidated into one page as having separate articles for each time period is unnecessary for each page is not even that long to begin with. Due to both pages not being too long in size currently, it would not be breaching WP:TOOBIG. This article is currently less than 240 words according to the page size gadget, but it would be better to approximate it to 500 words as it is not considering all of the words for some reason.

Merging the articles ensures that all relevant information is easily accessible. With the current split, each article is too niche/specialized which reduces the chances that a broader audience would stumble upon it. A single, comprehensive article increases the likelihood that people will find the information they are looking for when they search for the 2nd Army Corps (France). I also recommend this due to Wikipedia:Article titles.

As for concerns about it becoming too big which I briefly touched on in the first paragraph, this wouldn't really happen in the current state of both articles. The article I am proposing to merge into is 477 words according to the page size gadget, but as previously mentioned, it isn't counting all the words so it is about 500-600 words in size. When II Corps (Grande_Armee) is merged into the 2nd Army (France) article, the combination of both articles would be approximately 1,000 to 1,100 words in size. As stated per Wikipedia:TOOBIG, for any article below 6,000 words, its "length alone does not justify division or trimming."

If the 2nd Army (France) article is to ever become too big, the article can always be re-split. However, as it stands at this current time, the article doesn't warrant a split into two different article as when the two articles are combined, the size is well below the 6,000 threshold.

TLDR: I propose this article is merged into 2nd Army (France) for the following reasons:

1. Wikipedia:Consistent: Although it states in the policy that "it is not considered important for article titles on the English Wikipedia to be consistent with titles used by the corresponding articles on other language versions of Wikipedia." which in this case I'm referring to 2nd Army Corps (France) on French Wikipedia for the reason of consistency. In this scenario, it doesn't logically make sense to have the army from the Napoleonic and WW1/WW2 era to be different.
2. WP:Overprecision: This article is way too precise and is not logically going to be searched by this title unless an expert was looking it up and was aware of the correlation.

(Note this is not for music. I wrote M thinking it meant merge but I was wrong. I apologize.)

Reader of Information (talk) 18:56, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

• Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: History, Military, and France. WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 19:28, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

  Thank you! Reader of Information (talk) 19:29, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

Oppose deletion, agree to merge. You should have just kept it as a merge, that way the previous link to II Corps (Grande Armée) would automatically become a redirect to 2nd Army Corps (France). +JMJ+ (talk) 20:16, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

• User:Reader of Information, since you are not seeking deletion of this article, please withdraw your deletion nomination and seek a Merge. There is no reason to keep this discussion open a week if what you are actually seeking is a Merge of this article which can be discussed elsewhere. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 05:02, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

  @Liz Withdraw Reader of Information (talk) 10:24, 4 December 2024 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

Reader of Information (talk) 20:19, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

@+JMJ+ Pinging since you were involved in the previous post. Reader of Information (talk) 20:29, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

Agree to merge per nom. +JMJ+ (talk) 21:19, 8 December 2024 (UTC)