Template:Did you know nominations/Gifted (2022 novella)
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The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 11:16, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
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Gifted (2022 novella)
- ... that in 2022, all five book nominations for the Akutagawa Prize were written by women, including former Japanese adult actress Suzumi Suzuki, who wrote Gifted after her own experiences?
- Source: (Translated from Japanese to English)
Suzuki Suzumi, whose book "Gifted" (Bungeishunju) was nominated for the 167th Akutagawa Prize, says that while her unexpected background has attracted attention, it has also led to prejudice and labelling.
For the first time in history, only female writers have been nominated for the 167th Akutagawa Prize, which will be announced on July 20th. Among them, Suzuki Suzumi, who was nominated for "Gifted," made her AV debut while studying at Keio University. After that, she worked for a newspaper company and graduated from the University of Tokyo, and is now active as a writer and columnist, which has attracted attention for her unusual career.
Source: Oricon News (https://www.oricon.co.jp/special/59840/)- ALT1: ... that former adult film actress Suzumi Suzuki pivoted to writing literature in 2022 with her novel, Gifted, which became one of five books nominated for the Akutagawa Prize that year? Source: Same as first source
- Reviewed:
Created by Phibeatrice (talk).
Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.
Phibeatrice (talk) 00:51, 4 November 2024 (UTC).
- If anything, the fact that the writer of the novel is a former adult film actress is the interesting part here, not the award (which not all readers may recognize, even if it's prestigious). Suggesting a far simpler hook:
- ALT3 ... that the 2022 novel Gifted was written by a former adult film actress?
- Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:51, 6 November 2024 (UTC)
- Interesting to whom? I much prefer the longer hooks which give more information. "former actress writes book" is not very interesting. "former actress writes book nominated for major prize" has more to offer. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 19:50, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- ALT4 ... that former adult actress Suzumi Suzuki's book Gifted was nominated for the Akutagawa Prize in 2022? Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 20:08, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
- @Mary Mark Ockerbloom: WP:DYKTRIM is the relevant guideline. Oftentimes, but not always, the shortest and simplest hooks are the best. There are times when hooks do need additional context, but generally speaking, we tend to target the widest audience possible with hooks that require the least amount of specialist information. The issue I have with the prize angle is that readers may not know that it is a prestigious award or even be familiar with it, making the angle less accessible. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:22, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- Presumably then, they will have an added incentive to click through and find out. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 15:37, 13 November 2024 (UTC)
- ALT4 ... that former adult actress Suzumi Suzuki's book Gifted was nominated for the Akutagawa Prize in 2022? Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 20:08, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
Numerous ALT hooks have been proposed: a reviewer is needed to ensure that they and this article are approved. Z1720 (talk) 15:12, 24 November 2024 (UTC)
I like ALT4 best. I boldly removed "Japanese" because: she is still Japanese; it does not add to interestingness; concision is key; and it is fairly easy to deduce from her name. Surtsicna (talk) 22:34, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
Surtsicna, I see no evidence that an actual review of the nominated article has been done beyond the hook. Please include your review of the article here, or let us know if we need another reviewer for that part. Thank you. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:25, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
- I thought the only thing left was to pick a hook. Thanks, BlueMoonset. The article was nominated soon after it was created. It is just about long enough but covers everything I would expect an article about a novella to cover. I enjoyed the prose as well, and it does not seem too similar to that of the cited sources. The sources check out. I was able to verify the Japanese-language ones using Google Translate. All in all, I am surprised this nomination took a month and a half to be reviewed. Surtsicna (talk) 12:49, 17 December 2024 (UTC)
